It depends, if your talking military array I have usually had enough at one. I have though built several econ SB arrays around heavy production/research worlds. They don't take near the amount of constructors and really can pick you up when your losing the tech war.

But can you make those ships by early year 4?

Hmmm? I don't think so. The ships I had at year 4 were impressive I think. I will jot down my ships at year 4 next game. I am Curious. I would also expect it big time depends on your tech rate and what tech tree you are achieving.

the only thing i;ve never been able to get is how people manage to get ships with those kind of ratings; even with ultimate miniaturization and top of the line techs (tho i use Disrupt III and Posit II, i realize that the actual end techs arent as cost efficient) I've never managed to have those kind of abilities unless I have lots of military resources. I may have to try a sandbox cheat game really quick just to work out various ship designs.

Neilo, as for where you are in the game, building another array would be signing your death sentence. At this point the AI knows there are no more possible planets to colonize, only to conquer. No matter your military rating, if you are the only target, you are the only target. To quote Ronan "Even if it was a fleet of Wraith Hive ships, would that stop us?" they're gonna come gunning for ya, I would say you are better off going after their biggest production worlds (late game is also the one time i've found Espionage to be helpful, its kinda nice knowing which planets are actually *worth* taking, its much more crippling to them) and knocking them out rather than spending money on something that won't defend your worlds or allow you to conquer others

The SB array, military of course, is purely for score. I know it will have no bearing on the game itself, if it wasn't for score i prolly would not build the first one. I just want to know will it make that much difference to score having multiple Military SB array's.

As to my ships, i have two Hyperion Shrinker's and two military resource's. But those ships, my Galaxy class frigates, are not close to ships i have had in the past. I once had a Miranda class ship with 500att/500def with about 16 speed. I do not recall what resources i had in that game but IIRC i did have no less than three Hyp Shrinkers. Take engines away and you can far more.

I'll do a couple of screen shots of my production planets for you guys, IIRC my big plus 1000 planet does have Econ bases helping it.

Took a few screen shots for ya all,

The first one is Thebes III, on full military spending it has a production output of 1168. There is 1 fully built out Econ base helping...



This one is my second biggest production world, Saba III, it has an output of 902 with no Econ base to help, it was at 1064 but i am still rebuilding the Econ array that the Thalan's took out,



And this is my Galaxy Aegis class ship, the Krynn Naval Ship Orillias with 211att/157def 40sp. the atttack was higher than that, i must have lost a resource somewhere, haven't found where yet though...wish constructors had an automate feature like miners do,

very sweet Neilo!

On a related note, does have anyone else have issues of planets NOT flipping once the MCC has been built? I like having the econ boost, but it pretty much puts the stops in my Influence games.

Also Neilo, did you forget that the Miranda is supposed to be weaker than the Galaxy class LOL j/k

Gosh, i wish i wasn't feeling so incredibly crappy right now, this is making me want to play, but I got some cold/flu thing from somewhere and I've slept over 18hrs so far today

Yeah, was wondering if someone would pick up on that...i really liked the Miranda class ships and built a dreadnought inspired by it...i think i have the ship in templates somewhere, if i find it i will post it...very cool looking ship, i added an extra two nacelles under the ship in a staggered formation, gives the ship a very mean and sleek look to it.....

I have never had planets flip any easier to me after building the MCC. At first i thought it was from playing on challenging, but i still have not seen any change whilst playing on tough and painful.

very cool; yeah def put up some screens if ya ever get around to it.

i'd have to go with Sovereign and Defiant as my favorites, i was actually never a fan of the Galaxy class..too big and bulky...that was mitigated a lil bit in DS9 when they really had the CGI where ya saw ships actually *moving*

But as for my favorite starship design across the Sci-fi universe...hmmm, I'd probably have to say the Star Destroyers...intimidating, powerful, and efficient in one fell swoop...with Excelsiors being close behind (i just really like that sleekness they have)

Yeah, with the MCC i have noticed that I rarely even get asteroids once its built

Ohhh favourite Sci-Fi ships discussion (out breaks the geeky nerd inside of me)....

Absolutely my favorite Star Trek ship is the Defiant. The Romulan warbird is a close second. I always thought the Galaxy class looked a little tame...i thought the Enterprise C looked better..Ambassador class i believe.

As for favorite ship of all time...it's Star wars yes, but the Tantive IV Rebel Blockade Runner...from the first moment you see that ship in ANH i loved it...again with the Star Destroyers a close second.....

Here's a picture of some of my Star Wars Lego models...yes i'm a big kid at heart....

WOW, My son is drooling (Dad those are what I want!). I buy the odd Starwar Lego ship, but I have to put it together. Then it gets broken and parts go missing and it ends up with all the normal pieces of lego. I think you said you have a child, HAHA you will see what happens when your at work and they want to "FLY" them.
But very impressive, Thanks for showing them.

I built the Tie fighter myself. My brother had another tie intercepter(sp) and didn't want it anymore, so i bought it of him and built my own tie fighter....i got it pretty close i thought.



Oh yes mate, a 5 year old...and if it was not for the lock on the door, he would claim them as his own with no doubt.....when i rebuild them it is a cardinal sin for me to do it if he is no there to "help"....lol!!


Thankyou...No worries mate..

can anyone else not get into the Tyranny forums?

I can't either. Maybe we are too evil and Neilo is afraid his fembots and slaves will find it more justful to jump ship  

It's working fine for me, double check guys and if there is a still a problem i will contact the hosts and see what is going on...