if your a batman fan I hate to inform you i'm a Joker fan.  

Err i think you missed the joke.
But i too am a Joker fan, just saw Dark Knight for the second time, even though i despise Heath Ledger he sure did a great job as the Joker.

Just looking at your ship again Dys....here is one of my ships. I tend to build new ships every game, though i do have a few designs that i keep, ill post them in the new ToE forums but i thought id drop this one on here anyway.

I call it the Warthog. It's a large hull with about 200att/50def and 40sp. I used this in my latest mumbler as a pirate cleaner. It worked a treat.

that was funny on several levels.



i was thinking about it recently, and i realized i have trouble building ships that don't look like they're from star trek. i guess for one thing, they're some of the most visually interesting ships in the world of Sci Fi. let's compare.

Star Wars: a giant ball of metal with an embedded satellite dish, plus huge wedges of cheese. not exciting. the rebel ships look rather utilitarian. the ships generally don't look more interesting until the prequel trilogy, which just sucked.

Stargate: the earth ships look like direct descendants of modern naval ships, which adds believability, but not style. gouaould ships are designed to be a plot twist (they land on pyrimids), and Ori ships look like toilet bowls. Wraith ships are kinda cool, as were the Asgard, but in general the ships in the SG universe were too view in design variation to capture my love.

Starcraft: okay i do like Protoss ships. judging by the info about SCII they've released so far, it looks like the Protoss fleet is getting some nice expansion. Terran ships are gritty and utilitarian, if a bit few in number. and that leaves the Zerg, which don't technically have ships but evolutes, but either way considering that they come about as a result of intelligent direction, i'd still consider them a form of a technology. okay, yeah, starcraft is pretty damn cool (sidenote: did you guys ever hear about the not-likely-to-be-finished Starcraft Ghost? it was supposed to be an FPS set in the SC universe).

Battlestar Galactica: fraking awesome. period.

stock GalCiv2 ship designs: okay, there is variety here, and something like consistency for each race. but seriously... i'll grant that SD's art department's done great things for the game in TA, but when it came time to actually build ship templates, it's like it was a bit of an after thought for the most part. and justifiably so, since they left us with the ability to build more or less unlimited variations. still... when i look at these stock designs, i can't help but think, "i wouldn't board that hooptey ride for all the BCs in a mumbler".

that leaves Star Trek. and the thing about ST is, there's just so much material to draw from. between 5 live action series and a cartoon, 10 movies and more printed fiction (sanctioned or of the fan- variety), you've got a more elaborate (not to mention inconsistent) mythos than most, if not all, world religions. it's not wonder the Futurama epi, Where No Fan Has Gone Before, features "...star trek fandom [evolving] into a full-blown religion."

but more than that, i think by TNG they were starting to design ships with aesthetics in mind first. actually, i think that's what they did in TOS as well, but the production budgets and technology at the time left things looking worse than modern flash animation. but hey, you can't make everything a perfect masterpiece a la Industrial Light and Magic. oh wait...

anyway, yeah... that was a total ramble (brought to you by too much coffee and too little work this morning), but it did have a point. once development of GC2 has settled down, i hope to develop a mod that makes the game more fun, realistic and enjoyable. and that will also include new ship designs and additional custom races. i'm sure more than a few of these ship sets will be resemble ST designs.

as a side note, i've been watching some of the Federation & Empire mod designs roll out, and they're pretty good

well the trilogy was not half bad outher then half of the movies where falwing the plot between a wining boy and jar'jar. but outher then that i don't star wars had that meny ships apper in the movies. most of the ship appeared in the video games



The Holy Spock, and the miracle worker Scotty

Preacher: ...and Scotty beamed them to the Klingon vessel, where there would be no Tribble at all.

Church-goers: (in unison) all power to the engines!


okay, besides that, i started a discussion thread on a cracked articled called The 7 Commandments All Video Games Should Obey. here's a link to the discussion thread, which itself has a link to the article.

i thought it was a great article, and i was hoping to get some discussion about it going. so... i'm pimpin it here.

Shut up Jenny

whos jenny

PLayjeff, he keeps calling me Sethilina so I'll call him Jenny.

thats just stupid

Now now girls play nice

hmm.

HMMMM.

all i have to say is...

...

eight six seven five three oh ni-eee-ine!

(sorry sethlina, but you're probably too young and musically sheltered to get that. and be fair, it's not just jeff calling you 'sethlina.' if memory serves, i'm the one that pointed out that it should be your new nick name.)

        You're HILARIOUS, By the way, How come nobody's commenting on your thread? Is it because you're over here SETHLINA? And while I'm here, I think I will pour myself another drink.......MMMMM thats GOOOOOD.

Oh Yeah, Give me a call Sethlina, My number is 867 5309. Or is that over your Head?

Pedophile!!!!!!!